The UK childrens commissioner Sir Al Ainsley-green is at this moment visiting Meltem Avcil at Bedford Hospital NHS trust.
Prior to this visit, Meltem said:
“I hope he can stop what the government is doing to us. Not one card on my birthday but it was like any other day yesterday. Today, people have been sending cards and emails through the hospital. But I feel like we are criminals now. In my heart my home is Doncaster and I am an English schoolgirl. If we get deported to Turkey, we might as well be dead because of the situation for Kurds. I want Sir Al to help us and I want to go back to my school and see my friends and my home.”
“He’s my only hope now.”
Cards and messages of support can be sent to:
Meltem & Cennet Avcil
Riverbank Ward
Childrens Unit
Bedford Hospital NHS Trust,
Kempston Road,
Bedford,
MK42 9DJ.
By Email
Meltem & Cennet Avcil
Riverbank Ward
Childrens Unit
Please email: communications@bedfordhospital.nhs.uk
55 responses so far ↓
Amy Sutton // November 22, 2007 at 12:07 pm |
I just wanted to say that it’s great to receive these updates, and thank you so much for doing them – around the clock! It’s so important to be able to check in to email and find out what’s happening with Meltem and her mother, and act as necessary. Ii know a lot of friends are doing the same. Thank you.
Best wishes
Amy Sutton
Sighthillman // November 22, 2007 at 12:47 pm |
I hope they are sent how who the hells paying for lawyers ets ets ets for these people, i laughed my head of the remark about how much the private plane was costing, well it will be cheaper than having them here, why dos the PAIH not state that asylum seekers are as told by the UN to stop at first country, long may dawn raids continue
Debi // November 22, 2007 at 1:11 pm |
Thanks so much to the person who directed me here. I’ve just done a blogpost linking to your site.
We all need to do as much as we can to maintain pressure and prevent this kind of hideous injustice being done in our name.
Michael Woods // November 22, 2007 at 5:08 pm |
Sighthillman.
Not a real man though as your outrageous remark about dawn raids shows.
I hope we all get to pay for the Avicils to stay here, I would be proud to be part of that.
Whereas I feel a certain nausea that you and I share a language and use the same air.
The deplorable harassment of these defenceless people must and will stop whether you like it or not.
Gareth Harper // November 22, 2007 at 6:13 pm |
This whole thing is a disgrace.
It’s clear that Meltem is an English lassie, she’s grown up in England, she has a strong Doncaster accent, she’s been educated in England, her friends are in Doncaster and she belongs in Doncaster.
I hope that somehow sense eventually prevails are that Meltem and her mother are given full refugee status and help to overcome what has frankly been nothing short of torture at the hands of the immigration authorities.
As for cost, it should be noted that ‘asylum seekers’ are banned from employment and earning a wage. The systems forces them to become a ‘burden’ on society.
Given the opportunity I’m sure that Cennet and Meltem can and will become an asset to this country. And after six years waiting they most certainly deserve that opportunity.
Do please continue to keep us informed, and indeed what we can do to help.
Darren Stewart // November 22, 2007 at 7:37 pm |
I would like to congratulate positive action in housing for their efforts in this case.
It comforts me that the sheer level of positive comments outways that of the people who refuse to look beyond the end of their face.
Laura Cresswell // November 22, 2007 at 8:08 pm |
Im One of Meltems friends at school and we are all very upset with what she is going through at this moment, we are going to help her as much as we possibly can, and are going to talk to our head of year and the head-master about the case, asking them to help aswel.
There is no need for Meltem and her mum to be tret like this , what has Meltem done? what exacly has she done! Nothing! so there is no reason for the way she is bieng treated, its disgusting!
Meltem We are all thinking about you and are going to help !
we are also going to write to you!
x
shuck // November 22, 2007 at 8:42 pm |
Ask her parents, it is them that have caused this situation. They are failed asylum seekers who have no right to be in the UK and are rightly being removed. Its tough but true.
Sighthillman // November 23, 2007 at 11:39 am |
Re- Michael Woods hopeless ignorant comment, usual story if not pro asylum then your racist, re us sharing the same language, you do not understand the Queens English and you have not read and picked up on any of my comments, the UN tells these people to stop at first safest country, if someone holds a gun to your head then you do not run to China from Glasgow, this says it all most if not all asylum seekers are not genuine, we can all make up stories, again the remark about harassement is ridiculas, they are given several chances to get out of our country before a dawn raid takes place, although i used to know alot of people who felt sorry for asylum seekers at first, they have now seen them for what they are and i can now say i do not know one person who wants them here, Glasgow has many people who need serious help, old people etc etc, it makes me sick to think that the money wasted on these asylum seekers could be spent someone who may have cancer and can not get money to pay for drugs, i would also like to know where they get money for mobile phones and constant use?, failed asylum seekers out of UK KNOW. whether you like it or not the dawn raids will continue as they are without question self inflicted.
Michael Woods // November 23, 2007 at 12:01 pm |
I rest my case on the comments above.
In all cases it seems that the many who approve of diversity and feel compassion use their real names.
Whereas the minority who disapprove and obviously feel none resort to the written equivalent of the balaclava.
Perhaps you are feeling the cold.
Meltem Avicil is now indeed a British schoolchild and must be treated as such.
As for the first safe country argument – I’m flattered they bypass other countries to come here. I would.
Natalie // November 23, 2007 at 5:45 pm |
Im one of meltems friend from the women centre, we all really miss her from the YWCA and we are all trying to do our best to get her back in the uk. Whats the point in letting her stay here for 6 years letting her make friends and then moving her in a country shen doesnt even know.
All the people in the women centre miss you.
X
shuck // November 23, 2007 at 6:23 pm |
She will be removed because she has no legal right to be here. Her parents are to blame as they were fully aware that as Failed Asylum seekers this day was inevitable.
Time to go home Meltem!
[FROM THE MODERATOR: - SHE'S JUST BEEN RELEASED FROM YARLS WOOD! - HERE'S AN UPDATE COMING JUST FOR YOU]
Sighthillman // November 23, 2007 at 7:28 pm |
Re-Michael Woods, are you completly thick, have you no grasp of the Queens English, you are a first class fool, you are not up to my standard at all, if you do not understand comments or words please look up dict etc, alot of my posts in not an opinion it is a fact whether you or i like it, i have to correct you yet again, clearly you are a law breaker fully supporting illegal immigrants but i believe people like you now come to the attention of immigration aswell as you could be heavily involved in promoting /assisting illegals, the majority are sick of asylum/immigration, no asylum seeker is British or ever will be, their loyalities are always back home and there is numerous cases of people being granted asylum and them guess what? back they go to visit family in the counrty there fleeing, your not just a do gooder you are a bloody dangerous one at that, you like these bogus asylum seekers so much go with them, WOODS GO HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME YOU ARE A TRAITOR TO SCOTLAND UK, or indeed are you yourself an asylum seeker, if you respond to this make sure you get your facts correct
[FROM THE MODERATOR - SIGHTHILLMAN is now banned from posting on this site]
shuck // November 23, 2007 at 10:01 pm |
I take it that you the moderator are not playing an impartial role in these discussions as it is clear you back this family?
I would be gratefull if you could please explain your position as many of us who hold differing views may wonder if our legitimate views are taken seriously? You do afterall claim to be a moderator!
Do you moderate only for your own views?
[Moderator:- An email has been sent to the address you provide explaining everything that you need to know. You are free to post the information in that email onto this comments page for the benefit of other commentators; however, this will be left for you to decide. - Jamie]
shuck // November 24, 2007 at 1:10 am |
I take it that you the moderator are not playing an impartial role in these discussions as it is clear you back this family? I would be gratefull if you could please explain your position as many of us who hold differing views may wonder if our legitimate views are taken seriously? You do afterall claim to be a moderator! Do you moderate only for your own views?
[Moderator:- An email has been sent to the address you provide explaining everything that you need to know. You are free to post the information in that email onto this comments page for the benefit of other commentators; however, this will be left for you to decide. - Jamie]
Debi // November 24, 2007 at 3:02 pm |
I would just like to let the moderator know that many of us will support the actions you have taken here 100%.
Thank you for your swift action in refusing to allow this space to be used as a platform for those espousing deeply offensive views.
Michael Woods // November 24, 2007 at 3:13 pm |
I am so chuffed that the Avicils have been released from detention.
I feel we each played our small part in this whereas PAIH played a large one. Well done PAIH.
My daughters will be overjoyed as am I.
Sighthillman // December 6, 2007 at 3:21 pm |
I have had two comment added in the last 24hrs, but one i posted today has not been added, can i post or not, also my post that i was banned for was not delighted so i think it is fair to say that the moderator did not think it was abusive, will you respond please as i never get an answer, thank you
Michael Woods // December 6, 2007 at 8:02 pm |
Delighted means very happy.
Deleted means removed.
So you think you were banned for a post that was unhappy.
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
shuck // December 6, 2007 at 8:28 pm |
FROM THE MODERATOR: COMMENT BLOCKED BECAUSE OF INSENSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT A YOUNG GIRL’S COMMENT.
Sighthillman // December 6, 2007 at 8:31 pm |
FROM THE MODERATOR: COMMENT BLOCKED BECAUSE OF ABUSIVE COMMENTS TO OTHER POST-ERS.
shuck // December 6, 2007 at 9:55 pm |
How can you possibly allow Mr Woods comments regarding sighthilmans spelling be posted and not that of Meltams?
Sighthillman may be 14 yrs old!
FROM THE MODERATOR: WE WOULD NOT WISH TO COMMENT ON SIGHTHILLMAN’S MENTAL AGE FOR FEAR OF BREACHING OUR OWN MODERATION RULES SET BY THE POLITE SOCIETY.
shuck // December 6, 2007 at 10:02 pm |
Isn’t Mr Woods being isinsentsitive regarding sighthillmans spelling?
Sighthillman // December 6, 2007 at 10:02 pm |
I am puzzled here ?the last post refered to M Woods ,nobody else, he is the only one i responded to and only because he put a remark about my post , i think you are being unfair here, please explain why Woods can post what he likes , to be honest i think you should pull him into line.
FROM THE MODERATOR: IF MR WOODS WAS ABUSIVE HE WOULD BE MODERATED. HIS COMMENT HISTORY IS 99.2987% RESPECTFUL ACCORDING TO OUR STATISTICS USING THE POLITE SOCIEY’S COMMENT ABUSE MONITOR. ALL COMMENTATORS ARE MODERATED ACCORDING TO THE SAME CRITERIA.
shuck // December 6, 2007 at 10:03 pm |
insensitive
shuck // December 6, 2007 at 10:11 pm |
Moderator, you do realise that you are showing organisation to be extremely one sided?
Is it one rule for your own and one for the other?
I do hope you are embarrased moderator.
shuck // December 6, 2007 at 10:14 pm |
I ake it your criteria favours those who agree with the views of PAIH?
FROM THE MODERATOR: NO. OTHERWISE WE WOULD NOT POST YOUR COMMENTS. SEE MODERATOR’S RULES . NOW GO TO SLEEP.
Sighthillman // December 6, 2007 at 10:55 pm |
Moderator, please try and be more professional, is Woods a fictional character made up by PAIH?, he surely is not real is he?, also regarding remarks about peoples mental age, i bet if i made a remark like that it would be a warning for me, there certainly is low mental ages posting and clear to see but not from me, giving 14 would be being kind in certain cases here, please be a bit more fairer with myself and shuck who is being provocted by woods.
paih // December 7, 2007 at 12:32 am |
IT IS GOOD TO SEE CONTRIBUTORS BEING CIVIL WITH EACH OTHER
Ali // December 7, 2007 at 10:55 am |
“Isn’t Mr Woods being isinsentsitive (sic)regarding sighthillmans spelling”?
Haven’t you tried to belittle others in this exact same way before, Shuck? Do you remember this? And do you remember me telling you it was a cheap shot?
“Moderator, you do realise that you are showing organisation to be extremely one sided”? If he was, half the things you say wouldn’t end up here, surely?
Sighthillman, please specify who provides “low mental ages posting (sic)”. And please don’t respond with a tirade similar to your previous one (you know, the horrible one you posted before you were banned ?). I may not have fully understood its content (perhaps you need to calm down before you respond sometimes), but I certianly understood its tone.
Sighthillman // December 7, 2007 at 11:38 am |
Ali, i am not aware of any horrible posting i made, i think you mean the factual one which i stand by, i am pleased you understood the tone, perhaps you can learn something from it, regarding mental ages, you seem to be a bit worried here, Woods and yourself and remember i was being kind .
Moderator- I am no longer going to respond to remarks from Woods and Ali, i would be grateful if you would deal with any rude remarks from them, i am going to post on the issues that are raised by PAIH which is what this post board is for, i will keep my views on posts to myself and stick with the subject.
Michael Woods // December 7, 2007 at 7:50 pm |
97.23% only ? I have been nothing if not polite to those degenerates.
I really feel we as a nation should weed out the likes of Shuck, Sighthillman, Angus McKay Kickemout and so-on and use the resources waste d on them – air, water etc – to help sustain millions of needy but decent people from elsewhere.
Particularly those in detention in Dungavel and Yarls Wood at this moment.
Only an opinion and no offence meant you understand. I also carefully refrained from using the words pondlife or amoeba in order not to cause offence.
Angus McKay // December 7, 2007 at 9:41 pm |
Hi, Sighthillman.
You asked the moderator(s) ‘‘is Woods a fictional character made up by PAIH?, he surely is not real is he?’’ Mr. Woods is indeed ‘‘real’’. Mr. Woods thinks other people see himself as ‘‘Arnold Schwarzenegger or ‘‘Nigella Lawson’’. …[Deleted by Moderator]
Excellent decision by yourself not to respond to remarks from Woods and Ali. At least two previous posters have taken the same decision to break off communication with Mr. Woods. I’ll join you – that now makes at least four.
Maybe Shuck, your good self and myself could share discussion on asylum and immigration?
[Moderator: - Do not use this website to attack people, spread rumors or gossip - Jamie]
Angus McKay // December 7, 2007 at 10:01 pm |
To the moderator(s)
I am unable to gain information regarding ‘‘THE POLITE SOCIETIES COMMENT ABUSE MONITOR’’ as referred to on your website.
Could PAIH please supply a contact name, address, website, or other, whereby I might acquaint myself with the rules under which I am to be scrutinized?
Thanking you.
[Moderator: - No fortunately. This is only available to an elite group of Moderators who must not reveal their sources.
shuck // December 7, 2007 at 10:18 pm |
Moderator, I too would like this information.
I would like to confirm exactly why it is that my comments are being moderated.
[Moderator: - Please see previous posting - Jamie]
Angus McKay // December 8, 2007 at 1:33 am |
To the moderator (Jamie):-
Jamie, you deleted my reference to Mr. Woods, December 7, 2007 at 9:41 pm.
You stated your reason for doing so:– ‘‘ [Moderator: - Do not use this website to attack people, spread rumors or gossip - Jamie]’’
In his posting of December 7, 2007 at 7:50 pm, Mr. Woods chose to attack, by way written insulting abuse, describing Shuck, Sighthillman, Angus McKay Kickemout as ‘‘those degenerates’’
Will you explain why, in your role as moderator, you chose not to delete Mr. Wood’s insults.
Excerpt from PAiH ‘‘ABOUT US’’ …………..
‘‘to enable everyone’’ ……….. ‘‘free from discrimination’’.
To delete my comment whilst allowing Mr. Wood’s comment(s) to remain is discrimination.
[Moderator: - The statement from the post you are referring to did not refer directly to any one commentator on this site and had already been approved by another moderator from our team. It is you who has assumed that the commentator was referring to the above mentioned; however, we try to assume innocence whenever we possibly can. You on the other hand, referred to one commentator directly by being extremely abusive. Other Moderators to this site may tolerate this, I will not. No moderator is required to justify why each and every post to this site was approved, nor will the moderator answer questions on an individual’s posts, unless we feel it is necessary. The moderator may approve, delete and/or edit any post to this site as he/she sees fit and is not answerable to any commentator who is a visitor to this site - Jamie]
Michael Woods // December 8, 2007 at 11:56 am |
May I refer you to your previous posts.
Thank you so much. X.
shuck // December 8, 2007 at 12:50 pm |
Moderator, are you serious?
MODERATOR: SHUCK I DON’T THINK YOU KNOW HOW SERIOUS WE ARE. I KNOW YOU OF ALL PPL WILL AGREE THAT THE SCOURGE OF FASCISM AND RACISM MUST BE ROOTED OUT FROM OUR MIDST EVEN IN THESE SEEMINGLY INNOCUOUS POSTS. SURELY YOU WITH YOU INTELLECT CAN ABSORB THAT?
Michael Woods // December 8, 2007 at 1:40 pm |
Interesting site on Polite Society Monitoring. Took me about 20 seconds to find it, tricky one that. Says its designed to remain undiscovered by thickos and loonies, bit strong really but I suppose not offensive because those very same dimboes who can’t find it will remain unoffended because;
1) they can’t find it to read it anyway and;
b) if they stumble upon it probably would’nt understand the big words and;
3) who cares ?
How goes the fight to have more detainees released – just to get back on subject btw – ?
paih // December 8, 2007 at 2:06 pm |
MODERATOR : THIS WEBSITE DOES NOT GIVE PLATFORMS TO FASCISTS OR RACISTS.
shuck // December 8, 2007 at 3:34 pm |
But surely you would agrre moderator that there are no Facists or Racists commentin at present on forum, unless you know otherwise?
shuck // December 8, 2007 at 3:56 pm |
Go on Mr Woods surely you can answer the following questions?
Ok Mrs Woods and Ali you both seem to be favoured by the moderator and it obvious to all why.
Over the past few months, I have noticed that when asked a serious and valid question, both Mr Woods and Ali resort to escapism tactics as they have no substantial answer to give. Their response seems to be to resort to calling people, racist, Xenophobic etc, or start to pick up on silly things like peoples spelling (Mr Woods take note).
As I have mentioned before they both seem to be extremely narrow minded when it comes to the serious issue of asylum.
Mr Woods, whenever you are asked a straightforward question, you always seem to advise that I should refer to your previos posts. If you look back, your previous posts do not in anyway answer the questions posed.
This forum is about expressing different views and understanding of the issues surrounding Immigraion/Asylum, however you clearly have limited knowledge or at best lack the ability to lift your head from the parapit. Why do you not at least try and deal with the issues raised rather that resort to stupid rants about Immigraion officials and attempting to slag off fellow bloggers.
Why Is it ok for you to slag off Immigration Officials, but wrong for me to refer to Failed asylum seekers, Economic Migrants and illegal entrants as liars, cheats and thieves?
If you would like to get back to the issues at hand, I will give you the opportunity to gain some credibility back by asking you some of the questions you have so far avoided like the plague.
1) You are against “Dawn Raids”.
Many failed asylum seekers who are appeal rights exhausted are left in no doubt that they should make arrangements to return to their own countries, however blatantly refuse to do so. As a result the immigration officials have no choice but to visit these families at home in order to ensure they are removed leally.
My question to you is: If you are so against the practice of “Dawn Raids” what alternative can or do you offer?
2) Do you believe that failed asylum seekers who are appeal rights exhausted and whom the courts of the UK have ruled that they no legal right to remain in he UK should be removed?
3) Do you believe that the UK should have an asylum system, or do believe that anyone and everyone should be admitted to the UK without question?
4) Do you accept that the asylum system of the UK can and is being abused by Economic migrants posing as genuine asylum seekers
[Moderator: - Please do not repeat earlier posts as this will be regarded as "FLOODING". The post above has been posted before. Final warning, regarding this rule - Jamie]
Angus McKay // December 8, 2007 at 5:27 pm |
Hi, shuck,
Without naming any person, there is a ‘‘loose cannon’‘ posting. You know who that person is. Let that person carry on with her/his abuse. Allow her/him to hang themselves. Keep a copy of all you post – and any replies or deletions.
You will have noted that Sighthillman and myself have taken the decision not to respond to Mr. Wood’s comments. Want to join us? Want to make up the number of posters who don’t wish to correspond with Mr. Woods to at least five?
Michael Woods // December 8, 2007 at 6:10 pm |
I refer you to my previous posts.
But just to clarify it for the umpteenth time my alternative to dawn raids is;
No Dawn Raids.
Seekers of Asylum should be welcomed with open arms of course !
Please join Agnus, Slighthill and the other 3, two of whom are you anyway, and Brain in not responding to my posts. And pretty please all of you take a rest from this over the weekend and get out a bit, experience the world.
There are some lovely people out there. Warm, caring, kind people of all different sizes, shapes and colours and cultures. Its just marvellous what joy can be found in the company of such a rich and delicious variety of folk.
I hope sincerely that monday will find you in a better frame of mind(s). xx,
Nigella.
shuck // December 8, 2007 at 7:33 pm |
Michael Who?
Angus McKay // December 8, 2007 at 9:40 pm |
Hi shuck …… You’ve raised some very important issues on asylum and immigration in your posting of December 7, 2007 at 7:49 pm. No one appears to have responded. Here’s my response. Hope my comments will be allowed to stand.
1) “Dawn Raids”. ‘‘Many failed asylum seekers who are appeal rights exhausted are left in no doubt that they should make arrangements to return to their own countries, however blatantly refuse to do so. As a result the immigration officials have no choice but to visit these families at home in order to ensure they are removed leally.’’
True. Failed asylum seekers are informed when and where they have to appear for legal deportation. Some refuse to leave. some abscond.
From written correspondence with Mr. Ian Davidson, MP, Glasgow South West:- ‘‘Immigration Department stated that in a recent experiment approximately 40 families were invited to present themselves for deportation but, of these, approximately 39 then disappeared and have not been seen since.’’ (sic)
From written correspondence with Mr. Phil Taylor, Home Office, Regional Director, Scotland:-
‘‘You are right that failed asylum seekers have exhausted all legal rights of appeal and those who remain in the UK do so illegally. We will continue deport those who are here illegally, including families, when all appeal rights are exhausted and they have no further claim to remain in the UK. Enforced removal is always a last resort and we make every effort to encourage those who are here illegally to return to their country of origin voluntarily. In the vast majority of cases a family will have had ample prior notification that they are in the UK illegally and should make arrangements to leave. It is only when that they fail to do so that we consider enforcing their removal from the UK.’’ (sic)
My alternative to ‘‘dawn raids’’. There is no alternative. Failed asylum seekers who abscond become illegal immigrants and as such must be removed by whatever means necessary.
2) ‘‘Do you believe that failed asylum seekers who are appeal rights exhausted and whom the courts of the UK have ruled that they no legal right to remain in he UK should be removed?’’
In reply, my answer is as stated in (1) …. Failed asylum seekers who abscond become illegal immigrants and as such must be removed by whatever means necessary.
3) ‘‘Do you believe that the UK should have an asylum system, or do believe that anyone and everyone should be admitted to the UK without question?’’
The UK does have an asylum system. Serious problem is that the system is not being operated efficiently. Due to the ongoing (deliberate?) inefficiency, illegal immigrants, failed asylum seekers and an open border policy has resulted in a massive build-up of persons in specific areas. This in turn has brought about the national dispersal of persons to other areas (Glasgow for instance).
4) Do you accept that the asylum system of the UK can and is being abused by Economic migrants posing as genuine asylum seekers.
No. If an economic migrant poses as an asylum seeker, the economic migrant cannot be classed as a ‘‘genuine asylum seeker’’. The economic migrant would then become a bogus asylum seeker.
There you are shuck. I’ve responded to your important questions on asylum and immigration. No insult or abuse intended to anyone. Will I be allowed free speech.
I’ve enjoyed debating with you.
shuck // December 9, 2007 at 11:18 am |
What do tree huggers really offer our society?
Michael Woods // December 9, 2007 at 5:56 pm |
Lots of warm andwell-adjusted trees, warm well-adjusted families and a real dislike of fascistic, xenophobes.
Now the campaign to disband hellholes like Dungavel and Yarls Wood is beginning to hot-up we can expect a lot of thinlydisguised racist claptrap to begin to appear here.
Not thatI’m accusing anyonewho posts here of being either one of those things.
X.
shuck // December 9, 2007 at 6:28 pm |
Hi Angus,
Thanks very much for your reasoned and unbiased ressponse to the questions I had raised.
I did on several ocassions attempt to have a serious debate with other users regarding these topics, however was called a racist and xenophobe bu some I expect to have little or no knowledge of the issues.
It does surprise me that there are so many people out there who blindly support failed asylum seekers. These people in my opinion are very narrow minded and fail to realise the consequences of not removing failed asylum seekers.
Claiming asylum should not be regarded as an easy option for illegal entrants and economic migrants posing as genuine asylum seekers when they come to the attention of the UK authorities.
Angus,are you comments being moderated as mine are?
Thanks again Angus
Angus McKay // December 9, 2007 at 8:25 pm |
Angus, thanks for your reply. Yes, my comments are being moderated … and sometimes deleted. Good that you managed to see my response. Hope Sighthillman read it as well. I’ll be in touch again.
Angus McKay // December 9, 2007 at 8:28 pm |
shuck, sorry my last posting should have begun:- Shuck, thanks for the reply …..
Angus.
Ali // December 10, 2007 at 11:12 am |
Shuck / Agnus,
Please try to remember who you’re supposed to be when you post – you’re beginning to slip up.
You really can’t feel that you’re doing all that well on here if you have to resort to inventing multiple identities that support your views.
Thanks for making me laugh!
PS Sighthillman – I would reply to you, but there’s no point since you’re not going to respond to me. But I do have to say that if you thought I was rude to you, then you’re either hypersensitive or reading someone else’s post by mistake (or I have responded to you when you were posing as someone else). If it was that rude, my response would have been moderated and / or deleted. Or delighted. Or something… x
shuck // January 4, 2008 at 5:35 pm |
For the record: Angus and Shuck are not one in the same person.
floraandfauna // January 12, 2008 at 4:50 am |
I would like to say that I don’t understand what Michael Woods has said that’s wrong as he has supported the asylum seeker, and I don’t understand why he has been targeted (this is my first post).
I work in a centre that helps asylum seekers and I see and hear lots of things that would probably alter your perception of them. I don’t disagree with the dawn raids but it’s always families they target as it gets their figures down, yet the more imminent danger is the single male (which we have lots of).
They are rarely deported which is a shame as they target young British women or women who are vulnerable. Yet quite a few of them are vulnerable themselves, they come here at a very young age and have no one at all, but a lot aren’t and are manipulating the system!
Angus McKay // January 13, 2008 at 5:57 pm |
Asylum seekers who are destined for legal deportation should be returned to their countries of origin regardless of whether they constitute a family or a single person, male or female. When their cases to stay in Britain have been heard and rejected, the failed asylum seeker(s) must leave. The Home Office does not target families to ‘get their figures down’, they deport those who are failed.
I note you ‘work in a centre that helps asylum seekers’ and you do not disagree with morning collections of failed asylum seekers for legal deportation. Well said. It’s reassuring to be informed that even those who work with asylum seekers are beginning to accept that we must have deportations to reduce the large numbers of failed asylum seekers languishing in Glasgow.
‘ but a lot aren’t and are manipulating the system!’ Perhaps with your experience of working with asylum seekers you would be prepared to explain this statement farther.
In passing, it isn’t that which youknowwho has said – all are entitled to an opinion – it’s the way in which it chooses to express its’ opinions. I refer you to youknowwho’s past comments.